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		<title>By: What does a social media consultant do anyway?</title>
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		<dc:creator>What does a social media consultant do anyway?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] equal voice and our opinions are all equally valid. Under this model of social media, the guru or expert, is stepping outside of the egalitarian frame and taking on the mantle of superiority which is not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andre van Loon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre van Loon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very sound post; I absolutely agree with your observation that equality of opportunity and equality of outcomes can be easily confused.

The difficulty of being recognised as an expert is not exclusive to social media professionals, as I&#039;m sure you realise. Trying to sell services to a client without the benefit of a universally recognised brand is likely always to take a lot of communication about credibility and the value of the work at the end of the day.

Word of mouth work very well in this context and persistence in pitching etc. I would not be in favour of an academic hierarchy of clearly defined capabilities. I guess what I&#039;m saying is that being a social media expert is one thing, being good at selling your services is quite another - and not dependent on knowing social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very sound post; I absolutely agree with your observation that equality of opportunity and equality of outcomes can be easily confused.</p>
<p>The difficulty of being recognised as an expert is not exclusive to social media professionals, as I&#8217;m sure you realise. Trying to sell services to a client without the benefit of a universally recognised brand is likely always to take a lot of communication about credibility and the value of the work at the end of the day.</p>
<p>Word of mouth work very well in this context and persistence in pitching etc. I would not be in favour of an academic hierarchy of clearly defined capabilities. I guess what I&#8217;m saying is that being a social media expert is one thing, being good at selling your services is quite another &#8211; and not dependent on knowing social media.</p>
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		<title>By: What if Generalist vs. Expert was a Mistake? — Climb to the Stars</title>
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		<dc:creator>What if Generalist vs. Expert was a Mistake? — Climb to the Stars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (This was off the top of my head and might need another post to be dealt with properly &#8212; defining expertise.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy, yes, it&#039;s true that none of us know where things are going, and that&#039;s why we shouldn&#039;t make stupid predictions. But that doesn&#039;t mean that some of us aren&#039;t as advanced as we can be in understanding the current state of play. Rapidly developing fields just need more effort to keep on top of.

The fact that other  technologies have promised more than they could deliver  has no bearing on how well social media will live up to the hype. Truth is, sometimes it will and sometimes it won&#039;t. And the fact that some experts may contribute to social media not living up to its promise is a failure of the expert, not a failure in the word &#039;expert&#039; or the notion of experts. People can see themselves however they like and, indeed, I&#039;m not advocating that anyone should use the word &#039;expert&#039; - I&#039;m just saying that people should be free to use the word if they want without the automatic assumption that they must be talking out of their arse if they do.

I also don&#039;t believe that experts perforce create silos - that&#039;s more of a cultural thing of separating out areas of expertise and not letting or encouraging the people who specialise to cross paths with more people from other fields. Most innovation happens on the edge, on the intersection between areas of expertise, but if those fields never intersect, you get silos.

I think the fact that there is emotional and operational baggage tied to the word &#039;expert&#039; is exactly why we should go there. It&#039;s like the word &#039;social&#039;. If we don&#039;t unpack all that baggage it&#039;s going to weigh us all down.

@steph. thank you for such a glowing comment! I also totally agree with the idea that constantly trying to invent new job titles - a hobby of social media types - is a pretty poor idea. That&#039;s why I usually just grit my teeth and say &#039;social media consultant&#039; despite all the problems I have with those three words!

@everyon, the other thing that I want to emphasise is that this is really about freedom of choice, not about whether or not I think the word expert is a good one or not. It does have its problems, but we can&#039;t dismiss it because of that because other people, from outside of our field, don&#039;t have the same issues we do and it&#039;s foolish for us to project our assumptions on to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy, yes, it&#8217;s true that none of us know where things are going, and that&#8217;s why we shouldn&#8217;t make stupid predictions. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that some of us aren&#8217;t as advanced as we can be in understanding the current state of play. Rapidly developing fields just need more effort to keep on top of.</p>
<p>The fact that other  technologies have promised more than they could deliver  has no bearing on how well social media will live up to the hype. Truth is, sometimes it will and sometimes it won&#8217;t. And the fact that some experts may contribute to social media not living up to its promise is a failure of the expert, not a failure in the word &#8216;expert&#8217; or the notion of experts. People can see themselves however they like and, indeed, I&#8217;m not advocating that anyone should use the word &#8216;expert&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;m just saying that people should be free to use the word if they want without the automatic assumption that they must be talking out of their arse if they do.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t believe that experts perforce create silos &#8211; that&#8217;s more of a cultural thing of separating out areas of expertise and not letting or encouraging the people who specialise to cross paths with more people from other fields. Most innovation happens on the edge, on the intersection between areas of expertise, but if those fields never intersect, you get silos.</p>
<p>I think the fact that there is emotional and operational baggage tied to the word &#8216;expert&#8217; is exactly why we should go there. It&#8217;s like the word &#8216;social&#8217;. If we don&#8217;t unpack all that baggage it&#8217;s going to weigh us all down.</p>
<p>@steph. thank you for such a glowing comment! I also totally agree with the idea that constantly trying to invent new job titles &#8211; a hobby of social media types &#8211; is a pretty poor idea. That&#8217;s why I usually just grit my teeth and say &#8216;social media consultant&#8217; despite all the problems I have with those three words!</p>
<p>@everyon, the other thing that I want to emphasise is that this is really about freedom of choice, not about whether or not I think the word expert is a good one or not. It does have its problems, but we can&#8217;t dismiss it because of that because other people, from outside of our field, don&#8217;t have the same issues we do and it&#8217;s foolish for us to project our assumptions on to them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mechanics of Social Web Expertise: What Really is an Expert? &#124; Case Insights</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mechanics of Social Web Expertise: What Really is an Expert? &#124; Case Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post and annoyed by the growing anti-expert meme, Suw Charman-Anderson in her post &#8216;Hi, my name is Suw and I&#8217;m a social media expert!&#8217;, provides a thought provoking read about why we should be calling ourselves social media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Social Media Expert - Wicked Problems And Failure &#124; redcatco blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Social Media Expert - Wicked Problems And Failure &#124; redcatco blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charman-Anderson wrote a thoughtful post that provides a narrative on the issues, of which there are many. Picking up from a tweet in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An extra note about the Dan Schawbel article: of course, he speaks there about individual branding.

All good and stuff, sure thing. But if we all followed his advice, we&#039;ll have endless number of people trying to invent fancy job titles and not lead to anything fruitful for the profession.

What would make more sense is to create groups of practitioners and start looking at educating our peers, as well as those who we influence and influence us professionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An extra note about the Dan Schawbel article: of course, he speaks there about individual branding.</p>
<p>All good and stuff, sure thing. But if we all followed his advice, we&#8217;ll have endless number of people trying to invent fancy job titles and not lead to anything fruitful for the profession.</p>
<p>What would make more sense is to create groups of practitioners and start looking at educating our peers, as well as those who we influence and influence us professionally.</p>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I&#039;m biased, because I work with Suw, and I totally love working with her. If I hadn&#039;t, I probably would have gone on thinking I also have expertise in social media. I mean, I&#039;m on Twitter, Facebook, Wordpress, and the-next-cool-app, right?

Through working with Suw, I actually /tell/ other people I&#039;m working with a social media expert. My job sits somewhere between web product management, project management, UX and tech lead -- I&#039;m a generalist to the nth degree.

But someone like Suw would (and should) approach the problem of building a new application that has social aspects from a much higher level. Design concentrates on what we can build, and how we do it. Design should also consider /why/ we build. Before anything gets put on paper, bigger questions need to be ask - should we build it? Is it relevant? What does a conversation mean, what is a conversation or human interaction in a particular context? All these questions need to be asked and preliminary answers established as a starting point onto which a design process can then map, refine, build and test.

A social media expert today is a modern form of anthropologist in a specific field. There is a definite problem where our professions in the web are very vague and hard to understand, therefore hard to create proper professional certification for -- it all moves too fast. But if you&#039;re an expert in your field, it shouldn&#039;t be all too hard to know another expert when you meet one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;m biased, because I work with Suw, and I totally love working with her. If I hadn&#8217;t, I probably would have gone on thinking I also have expertise in social media. I mean, I&#8217;m on Twitter, Facebook, WordPress, and the-next-cool-app, right?</p>
<p>Through working with Suw, I actually /tell/ other people I&#8217;m working with a social media expert. My job sits somewhere between web product management, project management, UX and tech lead &#8212; I&#8217;m a generalist to the nth degree.</p>
<p>But someone like Suw would (and should) approach the problem of building a new application that has social aspects from a much higher level. Design concentrates on what we can build, and how we do it. Design should also consider /why/ we build. Before anything gets put on paper, bigger questions need to be ask &#8211; should we build it? Is it relevant? What does a conversation mean, what is a conversation or human interaction in a particular context? All these questions need to be asked and preliminary answers established as a starting point onto which a design process can then map, refine, build and test.</p>
<p>A social media expert today is a modern form of anthropologist in a specific field. There is a definite problem where our professions in the web are very vague and hard to understand, therefore hard to create proper professional certification for &#8212; it all moves too fast. But if you&#8217;re an expert in your field, it shouldn&#8217;t be all too hard to know another expert when you meet one.</p>
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		<title>By: Suw Charman-Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suw Charman-Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leisa heh, you sort of illustrate my point. I see you as a usability expert, because those are the conversations that we usually have. And I describe you as a usability expert to people when I talk about you. I don&#039;t think that, in all the time we&#039;ve known each other, that we&#039;ve actually had the conversation about what you do. Which goes to show that if we don&#039;t talk about which things we are expert in, other people might not figure it out for themselves. ;)

@lee, This is a lot less about me wanting to self-label as an expert, or my competency, and more about my freedom to call myself an expert if I want to without ludicrous censure from the wider community.


Like most people commenting, I&#039;m not great at turning round to the world and saying &#039;Hey, I&#039;m fricken ace as this stuff!&#039;, which is probably more of a failing than we like to admit. After all, there are lots and lots of people quite willing to fluff themselves up despite having zero knowledge/talent/ability, so if those of us who _are_ expert don&#039;t then we do ourselves and our knowledgeable colleagues a disservice. How many times do we see people with big gobs and no talent doing better than really smart people who are modest and restrained?

Third party recommendation, word of mouth, testimonials... these things are all nice. But I&#039;ve become sceptical of the idea that we live in lovely meritocracy where all one needs is to be good, and from that the rest will flow. One actually needs to be good, and well connected, and able to promote oneself effectively, and that means we need to talk about what we&#039;re good at, and we need to be able to call ourselves experts without then worrying that we&#039;re going to get pounded on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leisa heh, you sort of illustrate my point. I see you as a usability expert, because those are the conversations that we usually have. And I describe you as a usability expert to people when I talk about you. I don&#8217;t think that, in all the time we&#8217;ve known each other, that we&#8217;ve actually had the conversation about what you do. Which goes to show that if we don&#8217;t talk about which things we are expert in, other people might not figure it out for themselves. <img src='http://charman-anderson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@lee, This is a lot less about me wanting to self-label as an expert, or my competency, and more about my freedom to call myself an expert if I want to without ludicrous censure from the wider community.</p>
<p>Like most people commenting, I&#8217;m not great at turning round to the world and saying &#8216;Hey, I&#8217;m fricken ace as this stuff!&#8217;, which is probably more of a failing than we like to admit. After all, there are lots and lots of people quite willing to fluff themselves up despite having zero knowledge/talent/ability, so if those of us who _are_ expert don&#8217;t then we do ourselves and our knowledgeable colleagues a disservice. How many times do we see people with big gobs and no talent doing better than really smart people who are modest and restrained?</p>
<p>Third party recommendation, word of mouth, testimonials&#8230; these things are all nice. But I&#8217;ve become sceptical of the idea that we live in lovely meritocracy where all one needs is to be good, and from that the rest will flow. One actually needs to be good, and well connected, and able to promote oneself effectively, and that means we need to talk about what we&#8217;re good at, and we need to be able to call ourselves experts without then worrying that we&#8217;re going to get pounded on.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suw, great post.  I have to admit that I&#039;m often one of those poking fun, if not feeling tremendous angst over the Twitter-euphoria and business compulsion with social media.  That&#039;s not to say I don&#039;t firmly believe that social media and technology isn&#039;t important.  It&#039;s one of the mot important disruptor we&#039;ve seen since the internet browser and the UI development since.  I talk abotu social media and help clients navigate the landscape, but I start every engagement with this &quot;I AM NOT AND EXPERT - NONE OF US ARE&quot;.  Here&#039;s why I feel really uncomfortable with &quot;expert&quot;:
1) None of us know where this is going, and I feel like there&#039;s a whole lot more opportunistic &quot;experts&quot; out there than those that have a sense of the big picture.  To your point though, there are those of us that have spent a good deal of time in practice and in support of real businesses to make social media work.  That demonstrates expertise and knowledge, but I still don&#039;t feel like &quot;expert&quot; fits.  But that&#039;s my semantic beef..
2) At the macro business level I&#039;ve seen time and time again that business cultures gravitate to &quot;holy grail&quot; solutions that will solve big problems overnight.  CRM, Rich Media, Six Sigma, Direct, Internet, Branding etc etc etc. All can be richly useful, but only when used in concert and context with other efforts.  IMHO Social Media needs to be implemented in concert with other efforts, not be looked in a microscope on it&#039;s own.  You clearly don&#039;t suggest a siloed approach, but it can often be the outcome when you have a specialist expert that has the mission to monetize a singular expertise.
3) Semantic wise I think social media &quot;experts&quot; should see themselves as evangelists, inventors, adopters and integration consultants not experts.
4) In business cultures &quot;experts&quot; also implies a need for more siloed specialties.  Having worked for years trying to break down business siloes this makes me cringe.

Ultimately I think there&#039;s a lot more charged emotional and operational baggage in the expert word.  So let&#039;s just not go there?  I&#039;d rather see myself and other really passionate people like you do rockstar work that makes a difference without all the pomp. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suw, great post.  I have to admit that I&#8217;m often one of those poking fun, if not feeling tremendous angst over the Twitter-euphoria and business compulsion with social media.  That&#8217;s not to say I don&#8217;t firmly believe that social media and technology isn&#8217;t important.  It&#8217;s one of the mot important disruptor we&#8217;ve seen since the internet browser and the UI development since.  I talk abotu social media and help clients navigate the landscape, but I start every engagement with this &#8220;I AM NOT AND EXPERT &#8211; NONE OF US ARE&#8221;.  Here&#8217;s why I feel really uncomfortable with &#8220;expert&#8221;:<br />
1) None of us know where this is going, and I feel like there&#8217;s a whole lot more opportunistic &#8220;experts&#8221; out there than those that have a sense of the big picture.  To your point though, there are those of us that have spent a good deal of time in practice and in support of real businesses to make social media work.  That demonstrates expertise and knowledge, but I still don&#8217;t feel like &#8220;expert&#8221; fits.  But that&#8217;s my semantic beef..<br />
2) At the macro business level I&#8217;ve seen time and time again that business cultures gravitate to &#8220;holy grail&#8221; solutions that will solve big problems overnight.  CRM, Rich Media, Six Sigma, Direct, Internet, Branding etc etc etc. All can be richly useful, but only when used in concert and context with other efforts.  IMHO Social Media needs to be implemented in concert with other efforts, not be looked in a microscope on it&#8217;s own.  You clearly don&#8217;t suggest a siloed approach, but it can often be the outcome when you have a specialist expert that has the mission to monetize a singular expertise.<br />
3) Semantic wise I think social media &#8220;experts&#8221; should see themselves as evangelists, inventors, adopters and integration consultants not experts.<br />
4) In business cultures &#8220;experts&#8221; also implies a need for more siloed specialties.  Having worked for years trying to break down business siloes this makes me cringe.</p>
<p>Ultimately I think there&#8217;s a lot more charged emotional and operational baggage in the expert word.  So let&#8217;s just not go there?  I&#8217;d rather see myself and other really passionate people like you do rockstar work that makes a difference without all the pomp. <img src='http://charman-anderson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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